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Grief not related to deaths / Help with Ex Girlfriend... challenging... ☹️
« on: May 26, 2019, 02:37:10 AM »
My gf broke up with me exactly 2 weeks before the 1 year mark. She ended things unexpectedly after a long night of arguing. We had a very sexual relationship but without having actual sex, more like just physical touching and slow making out type of relationship... her mother never knew this but she did know we had a very cuddle type relationship... and tbh we both loved it. We FaceTimed every night all night for 9 months... we have had about 7 major arguments... she broke up with me after the first 3 months we were together and told me that she couldn’t stay, because she needed to grow up. I begged her to come back and she decided to stay. But with this argument we had most recently...I thought we sorted it out... we apologized to each other and told each other we loved each other. But she just decided to end things the next morning. She’s 17 and I’m 19, and I feel as if her mother had a lot of say in us ending our relationship though. After she ended things I didn’t handle it well, and I did the begging pleading bit... for hours I did this. And she listened to me the entire time until 3-4 in the morning. But kept telling me no to coming back. I got so low as to even hurt myself and show it to her. After that long night, we decided to say goodbye and leave it there. In the morning I was torn. I didn’t sleep all night, and I was in a lot of emotional pain. I called her mother and explained the situation to her. She said she didn’t know what to say and that she was stuck in the middle. So I sent my ex txts that day, explaining that I’d love her no matter what, and that if she ever needed me I would be here. I wasn’t begging and I wasn’t pleading with her at that point. I sent her a txt explaining that if she wanted to truly end it, I would want to end it peacefully and without hurtful things said, she never responded, I called her twice and she let her phone ring out. So right after she didnt pick up the second time I called her mother. Her mother picked up right away. I asked to speak with my ex. She agreed and put me on speakerphone (shows that my ex and her mom were talking about me, makes me wondering if her mother told her to block me.) And right then is when my ex blocked my number. I explained that I would give her a month to change her mind or I was giving back everything she ever gave me. I gave her 6 months to come back or I would forget about her forever, I got a new number the next day and called my ex, her friend picked up and acted like I had the wrong #. I called her mother and explained how unfair this was, she said she couldn’t do anything about it and that my ex was at her friends house. My friend cj came over and we were deciding to chill out for the evening, I told her mother this before we got off the phone so after our call ended she decided to call my friend. I didn’t recognize the number because my cj didn’t have her contact in his phone. I picked up because I thought maybe it was my ex’s friend who told me I had the wrong number, it was my ex’s mother who thought I was cj and I played it off that way, she than began to explain that I was obsessed with my ex and that there was something wrong with me asking in the end for cj to talk some sense into me. I interrupted and got pissed and told her that I loved my ex more than anything in the world and that it was a healthy obsession. I told her that I would go to her house the next day and drop everything off. After that call she kept texting cj telling him that she wished she never let me date her daughter. And that it was all her fault. Cj got mad and told her that it WAS her fault because there was 2 broken hearts and she had the power to stop this. The next day came and I drove to my ex’s house... I changed my mind and kept some things because I told my ex that our relationship was full of good memories and I wanted to keep some things because they were from her. She too had all of the things I gave her in a bag which she was going to give to me, I rejected it and told her mother when everything was said and done to keep it and put it in the back room or something so that In a year maybe we would have something to kick start this relationship off again, I also left her with my favorite sweatshirt... which just so happened to be hers too. But anyway when I showed up she walked out the door and She was torn when she saw me, her mother told me my ex wouldn’t care and would sit there with here arms crossed... but that by far wasn’t the case... , my ex was crying her eyes out. She was in a lot of pain and I knew it. (Not to mention she looked horrible... bags under her eyes stress lines the whole 9 yards, even blue lips from being cold.) She hugged me and I kissed her cheek and she didn’t retaliate. Her mother gave her the evil eye when I hugged her tho. We talked for about an hr, I was confident and I didn’t beg or anything, I told her I didn’t agree with her decision but if she wanted to end it, I couldn’t stop her. I told her I would always love her and take her back anytime. She was in tears about 80% of the time during that hr and a 1/2 conversation and i made sure to tell her how much it hurt for me to see her like this... and how much I just wanted to cuddle and hold her to make her feel better... During the conversation there were times where her body language would show me that she was 100% in tune and listening to what I have to say...(like when she would have her entire body facing me when I’m facing forward.) which showed me that she does really care about me and what I have to say. But She told me she NEEDED to end this. And she told me that I couldn’t change her mind. And that she just couldn’t be in a relationship rn. Her mother also told me that I wasn’t able to do this and her mother reassured me that this was over even before I showed up at her house... I asked my ex if she could at least tell me if she found another guy, and she reassured me that she wouldn’t find anyone else. I asked her to keep me in mind in a year when she was 18. And we could pick up where we left off, she said okay. And I told her that if ever she wanted to date someone again and if she was looking for a relationship... to have me be the first person in mind and she promised me that she would do that. After taking a long time to explain how much I appreciated her for being with me through the year, and how much she meant to me, to explaining how much I would remember the good times we had it came to a point where her neighbor called and asked her to come baby sit for her on short notice. She told me that it was time to say goodbye, I started to choke up and I asked her for a hug, after about 10 seconds I felt her start to ease off and so I backed up, she was in tears and she was sobbing. I told her I loved her once again and she told me she loved me too, I asked for a second hug, she said no but I got the 10 second hug anyway. She was crying even more now and I felt bad. I asked for a 3rd hug, and again. She said no but I got the long hug anyway. She started to walk away... I called her name and ran to her, I told her I loved her so much and that she meant the world to me and again reassured her of my love for her. She told me she really loved me too. And she apologized for having it be this way. I got another hug from her. And the entire time she was walking away, she kept staring back at me... her mother decided to drive me home, and I asked my ex’s mother about my ex finding another man. Her mother told me that there was no way that she would allow that... (which shows me that the mother had ALOT of control over her daughter and relationships) so I asked to call my ex with her mothers phone on the way home, she said yes and I called and told my ex I was proud of her and that maybe in 2 years we could pick up we’re we left off, she said okay, and again told me that she loved me and was sorry. I said it was okay and I apologized for everything and I said goodbye. I got home, the next day her mother txt me and told me that my ex was sick and she has to go to the doctors. I felt horrible because I knew it was because of all the stress. The night was horrible and I didn’t sleep, and I hadn’t gotten sleep and I kept throwing up everything I ate for 5 days straight. I had to go to the hospital. The doctors told me that if I came in 2 days later I could have died, I txtd my ex with an app that changed my number. So it wasn’t blocked anymore, I told her I wanted to have a heart to heart conversation about maintaining a friendship after this was done. I asked her if all of this pain from the breakup was really worth it and that we could have sorted this all out. She never responded. So i called her mother again, and asked to talk with my ex, she said my ex was in the shower rn and I would have to wait. So I did, and I stayed on the phone the entire time. Talking with my ex’s mother the entire time and explained the purpose for the call. She said that my ex wouldn’t say anything. And she wouldn’t want to listen, I told her that she said the same thing about her when I would show up at her house 2 days prior... I told her to trust me, because I knew how to reach my ex. She muted herself for like 5 mins. I was confused and I was like hello, r u there... and she said to wait a minute. while muting me again. I waited and she then said, okay go ahead, I asked to FaceTime, but her mother said no. I began talking explaining what I wanted to. No response, I asked if my ex was there and her mother spoke up and said yes she was but she was sitting there with her arms crossed. I then decided to tell my ex I loved her. I know that my ex would always tell me it back, it was something that we have had many many conversations over the entire year we dated, always telling the other person that u love them back, and she never failed to do that even after she broke up with me... expect this one time... I was like...” I love you!... r u there?” And her mother is like... “oh she left” and I’m like... yea she prolly left 10 mins before I even started talking... her mother then said that there was something wrong with me... I was like... why is there something wrong with me... I know what I want, I love her. Is that so crazy to you?... I told her that there was something wrong with her, and that she can’t just lie to me and tell me my ex is there when she wasn’t.(not to mention talking to my friends behind my back.) She didn’t say anything and about 5 mins after I got done talking I said goodbye... my ex’s friend (the one who said I had the wrong #) and my ex’s mother both at the same time blocked me on Snapchat and blocked my number. I feel like the mother had so much more say in this and I was wondering if I wasn’t just over thinking in saying that her mother had about 90% to do with us breaking up. Any help? I feel like I KNOW that my ex still loves me, but I feel like she feels pressured from her friends and family to end things with me... she just turned 17 and she’s not 18 so she’s not old enough ...according to her mother.... to make her own decisions. I just want to know if this is gonna be worth the wait... she doesn’t have any contact with me at all... even tho it’s been only about 3 days. She blocked me on multiple forms of social media... which makes me wondering if she’s truly being forced to do this by her mother... or she just wants to make a seriously sharp “clean break”... but I know she misses me and loves me... she wouldn’t get to the point of being physically ill if she wasn’t bothered by this. I asked her mother how she was handling things... and her mother told me she was handling everything perfectly fine... but I know that’s not true because during our conversation we had the last day me and my ex talked, my ex told me that she would lose such a big part of herself for losing me. Just like I told her I would as well. I’m just confused... I want to know if she actually loves me... I want to know that her mother is or isn’t... doing all of this behind the scenes... any help? Or advice... anything... because I’m just torn apart from this... I do love her... and I have such a hole in my chest because of this... please help...
Sorry for such a long message...
Sorry for such a long message...
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Spouse, Partner Loss / Re: Help with Ex Grilfriend
« on: May 26, 2019, 02:16:28 AM »
Sorry for such a long message... 😳
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Spouse, Partner Loss / Help with Ex Grilfriend
« on: May 26, 2019, 02:15:03 AM »
My gf broke up with me exactly 2 weeks before the 1 year mark. She ended things unexpectedly after a long night of arguing. We had a very sexual relationship but without having actual sex, more like just physical touching and slow making out type of relationship... her mother never knew this but she did know we had a very cuddle type relationship... and tbh we both loved it. We FaceTimed every night all night for 9 months... we have had about 7 major arguments... she broke up with me after the first 3 months we were together and told me that she couldn’t stay, because she needed to grow up. I begged her to come back and she decided to stay. But with this argument we had most recently...I thought we sorted it out... we apologized to each other and told each other we loved each other. But she just decided to end things the next morning. She’s 17 and I’m 19, and I feel as if her mother had a lot of say in us ending our relationship though. After she ended things I didn’t handle it well, and I did the begging pleading bit... for hours I did this. And she listened to me the entire time until 3-4 in the morning. But kept telling me no to coming back. I got so low as to even hurt myself and show it to her. After that long night, we decided to say goodbye and leave it there. In the morning I was torn. I didn’t sleep all night, and I was in a lot of emotional pain. I called her mother and explained the situation to her. She said she didn’t know what to say and that she was stuck in the middle. So I sent my ex txts that day, explaining that I’d love her no matter what, and that if she ever needed me I would be here. I wasn’t begging and I wasn’t pleading with her at that point. I sent her a txt explaining that if she wanted to truly end it, I would want to end it peacefully and without hurtful things said, she never responded, I called her twice and she let her phone ring out. So right after she didnt pick up the second time I called her mother. Her mother picked up right away. I asked to speak with my ex. She agreed and put me on speakerphone (shows that my ex and her mom were talking about me, makes me wondering if her mother told her to block me.) And right then is when my ex blocked my number. I explained that I would give her a month to change her mind or I was giving back everything she ever gave me. I gave her 6 months to come back or I would forget about her forever, I got a new number the next day and called my ex, her friend picked up and acted like I had the wrong #. I called her mother and explained how unfair this was, she said she couldn’t do anything about it and that my ex was at her friends house. My friend cj came over and we were deciding to chill out for the evening, I told her mother this before we got off the phone so after our call ended she decided to call my friend. I didn’t recognize the number because my cj didn’t have her contact in his phone. I picked up because I thought maybe it was my ex’s friend who told me I had the wrong number, it was my ex’s mother who thought I was cj and I played it off that way, she than began to explain that I was obsessed with my ex and that there was something wrong with me asking in the end for cj to talk some sense into me. I interrupted and got pissed and told her that I loved my ex more than anything in the world and that it was a healthy obsession. I told her that I would go to her house the next day and drop everything off. After that call she kept texting cj telling him that she wished she never let me date her daughter. And that it was all her fault. Cj got mad and told her that it WAS her fault because there was 2 broken hearts and she had the power to stop this. The next day came and I drove to my ex’s house... I changed my mind and kept some things because I told my ex that our relationship was full of good memories and I wanted to keep some things because they were from her. She too had all of the things I gave her in a bag which she was going to give to me, I rejected it and told her mother when everything was said and done to keep it and put it in the back room or something so that In a year maybe we would have something to kick start this relationship off again, I also left her with my favorite sweatshirt... which just so happened to be hers too. But anyway when I showed up she walked out the door and She was torn when she saw me, her mother told me my ex wouldn’t care and would sit there with here arms crossed... but that by far wasn’t the case... , my ex was crying her eyes out. She was in a lot of pain and I knew it. (Not to mention she looked horrible... bags under her eyes stress lines the whole 9 yards, even blue lips from being cold.) She hugged me and I kissed her cheek and she didn’t retaliate. Her mother gave her the evil eye when I hugged her tho. We talked for about an hr, I was confident and I didn’t beg or anything, I told her I didn’t agree with her decision but if she wanted to end it, I couldn’t stop her. I told her I would always love her and take her back anytime. She was in tears about 80% of the time during that hr and a 1/2 conversation and i made sure to tell her how much it hurt for me to see her like this... and how much I just wanted to cuddle and hold her to make her feel better... During the conversation there were times where her body language would show me that she was 100% in tune and listening to what I have to say...(like when she would have her entire body facing me when I’m facing forward.) which showed me that she does really care about me and what I have to say. But She told me she NEEDED to end this. And she told me that I couldn’t change her mind. And that she just couldn’t be in a relationship rn. Her mother also told me that I wasn’t able to do this and her mother reassured me that this was over even before I showed up at her house... I asked my ex if she could at least tell me if she found another guy, and she reassured me that she wouldn’t find anyone else. I asked her to keep me in mind in a year when she was 18. And we could pick up where we left off, she said okay. And I told her that if ever she wanted to date someone again and if she was looking for a relationship... to have me be the first person in mind and she promised me that she would do that. After taking a long time to explain how much I appreciated her for being with me through the year, and how much she meant to me, to explaining how much I would remember the good times we had it came to a point where her neighbor called and asked her to come baby sit for her on short notice. She told me that it was time to say goodbye, I started to choke up and I asked her for a hug, after about 10 seconds I felt her start to ease off and so I backed up, she was in tears and she was sobbing. I told her I loved her once again and she told me she loved me too, I asked for a second hug, she said no but I got the 10 second hug anyway. She was crying even more now and I felt bad. I asked for a 3rd hug, and again. She said no but I got the long hug anyway. She started to walk away... I called her name and ran to her, I told her I loved her so much and that she meant the world to me and again reassured her of my love for her. She told me she really loved me too. And she apologized for having it be this way. I got another hug from her. And the entire time she was walking away, she kept staring back at me... her mother decided to drive me home, and I asked my ex’s mother about my ex finding another man. Her mother told me that there was no way that she would allow that... (which shows me that the mother had ALOT of control over her daughter and relationships) so I asked to call my ex with her mothers phone on the way home, she said yes and I called and told my ex I was proud of her and that maybe in 2 years we could pick up we’re we left off, she said okay, and again told me that she loved me and was sorry. I said it was okay and I apologized for everything and I said goodbye. I got home, the next day her mother txt me and told me that my ex was sick and she has to go to the doctors. I felt horrible because I knew it was because of all the stress. The night was horrible and I didn’t sleep, and I hadn’t gotten sleep and I kept throwing up everything I ate for 5 days straight. I had to go to the hospital. The doctors told me that if I came in 2 days later I could have died, I txtd my ex with an app that changed my number. So it wasn’t blocked anymore, I told her I wanted to have a heart to heart conversation about maintaining a friendship after this was done. I asked her if all of this pain from the breakup was really worth it and that we could have sorted this all out. She never responded. So i called her mother again, and asked to talk with my ex, she said my ex was in the shower rn and I would have to wait. So I did, and I stayed on the phone the entire time. Talking with my ex’s mother the entire time and explained the purpose for the call. She said that my ex wouldn’t say anything. And she wouldn’t want to listen, I told her that she said the same thing about her when I would show up at her house 2 days prior... I told her to trust me, because I knew how to reach my ex. She muted herself for like 5 mins. I was confused and I was like hello, r u there... and she said to wait a minute. while muting me again. I waited and she then said, okay go ahead, I asked to FaceTime, but her mother said no. I began talking explaining what I wanted to. No response, I asked if my ex was there and her mother spoke up and said yes she was but she was sitting there with her arms crossed. I then decided to tell my ex I loved her. I know that my ex would always tell me it back, it was something that we have had many many conversations over the entire year we dated, always telling the other person that u love them back, and she never failed to do that even after she broke up with me... expect this one time... I was like...” I love you!... r u there?” And her mother is like... “oh she left” and I’m like... yea she prolly left 10 mins before I even started talking... her mother then said that there was something wrong with me... I was like... why is there something wrong with me... I know what I want, I love her. Is that so crazy to you?... I told her that there was something wrong with her, and that she can’t just lie to me and tell me my ex is there when she wasn’t.(not to mention talking to my friends behind my back.) She didn’t say anything and about 5 mins after I got done talking I said goodbye... my ex’s friend (the one who said I had the wrong #) and my ex’s mother both at the same time blocked me on Snapchat and blocked my number. I feel like the mother had so much more say in this and I was wondering if I wasn’t just over thinking in saying that her mother had about 90% to do with us breaking up. Any help? I feel like I KNOW that my ex still loves me, but I feel like she feels pressured from her friends and family to end things with me... she just turned 17 and she’s not 18 so she’s not old enough ...according to her mother.... to make her own decisions. I just want to know if this is gonna be worth the wait... she doesn’t have any contact with me at all... even tho it’s been only about 3 days. She blocked me on multiple forms of social media... which makes me wondering if she’s truly being forced to do this by her mother... or she just wants to make a seriously sharp “clean break”... but I know she misses me and loves me... she wouldn’t get to the point of being physically ill if she wasn’t bothered by this. I asked her mother how she was handling things... and her mother told me she was handling everything perfectly fine... but I know that’s not true because during our conversation we had the last day me and my ex talked, my ex told me that she would lose such a big part of herself for losing me. Just like I told her I would as well. I’m just confused... I want to know if she actually loves me... I want to know that her mother is or isn’t... doing all of this behind the scenes... any help? Or advice... anything... because I’m just torn apart from this... I do love her... and I have such a hole in my chest because of this... please help...
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